Snuze Bait

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/06/2020 at 23:55 • Filed to: None

I’ve just discovered these WeLT documentaries on YouTube and they are excellent . A wide variety and very high quality.

DISCUSSION (12)

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/07/2020 at 00:03

At first I read that as West German Submarine and got really confused.

PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/07/2020 at 00:08

Hopefully the German sub guys are better than their coast guard.

Jb boin > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/07/2020 at 01:07

Welt does nice documentaries, i started to watch this one and it seems interesting ; their “freestyle” haircuts are surprising me.

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On another submarine note : The first Suffren class submarine (which are French nuclear-powered attack submarines part of the program Barracuda replacing the Rubis class) just started its sea trials last week :

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Jb boin
05/07/2020 at 01:12

The officers are lower ranking than I would expect. Lots of ensigns and the captain is a l ieutenant commander. Everything I've watched of Welt has been first rate and they do a quality job with the translation.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/07/2020 at 07:42

Ddiscovered them a month back watched all of it!

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
05/07/2020 at 08:13

I hope they last me more than a month.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/07/2020 at 09:11

Thank’s for posting this! I’m in the office today and streaming has been blocked at work, but I’ll watch it tonight!

chaozbandit > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/07/2020 at 09:47

I like welt, but I prefer

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > chaozbandit
05/07/2020 at 10:19

I’ll check it out. Thank you for the reference.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Snuze: Needs another Swede
05/07/2020 at 10:22

It took me a while on the internet to track down a reference that would clue me in to what everybody’s rank was on that boat. Looks like a whole bunch of ensigns. The captain is a lieutenant commander, and his main officers are lieutenants . Very interesting to me. Small crew, a layer less of rank. I am particularly impressed by the presence of women on the crew and the chief technical officer strikes me as very competent, and someone you would definitely want to work with and for. when I watch good documentaries about life aboard a ship, there are personality and behavioral things that leak through even if per chance we are being shown a Potemkin village. If a young E3 feels comfortable around her captain, that shows. You can’t hide that. If the Master Chief comes through and the younger troops look at him or her and actually admire that person and want to follow them, that shows through and you can’t pretend that. I get a very good vibe from the crew on that sub. they’re relaxed, they break a formation with a shrug, then they go to work and hang out and enjoy what they’re doing. You just can’t make that up.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/08/2020 at 10:23

I’m watching the documentary this morning and really enjoying it. The 212A class boats are really interesting. They are very fascinating boats and have some really unique capabilities. The Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) design can be very, very quiet when properly implemented.

But they are tiny bois! 30' tall, 20' wide, and 187' long. It’s a cute little baby sub! Only 6 fish, though, is a bit... lacking. But they look pretty comprable to our Mk. 48s.

I think that’s the big trade off - AIP boats can be very quiet, especially if used on a small platform like a 212A, but they lack persistence. You’re fuel limited, and you have to surface periodically to run diesels, which is noisy AF. Also the whole 6 fish thing and no VLS, and no way to reload at sea . But they are cheap to build and run relative to a nuke boat, and require less specialized crew training.

One take away is that t heir scheduling is crazy ! 6 hours port and starboard. F T hat! Been there a few times and it sucks. When I was in we normally did 6-6-6 rotations - 6 hours of watch, 6 hours of “work” (maintenance, quals, studying, etc.) and then 6 hours off. The Navy eventually (a few years ago) realized that was really bad and switched to a more normal 8 hour rotation.

And you’re right, the crew looks happy and content, but if you know what you’re looking for, you can see it in their eyes... the same submariners gaze we all get. It’s a special, unique kind of suck, something nobody can understand until they experience it. COVID quarantine at home? I laugh at this ! It’s like Bane and Batman:

“ Oh, you think the darkness quarantine is your ally, but you merely adopted the dark quarantine . I was born in it, molded by it. I didn’t see the light society until I was already a man; by then, it was nothing to me but blinding! The shadows social distance betrays you, because it belongs to me.”

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Snuze: Needs another Swede
05/08/2020 at 12:53

The documentary says something at the very end about the subs’ mission. Listen for that. They’re more about keeping tabs on things. I imagine they might also be providing specific information gathering results to allies as well.

In the bridge, there’s a bank of three or four screens with technicians sitting shoulder to shoulder. One of those guys is a chief and you can see a certain slouchiness in his body language that may speak to what you’re saying. A small force, too, if I understood correctly: 80 submariners total.

One thing I loved : how they would sing the important commands like dive . A choral response meets a boatswain’s whistle. Beauty.

The other thing I loved, coming from the guy who spent 6.5 years in the Army, is how they have a formation on the dock, then break the formation with basically a shrug.

When they discuss the emergency steering deal, it’s an E-8 that goes back to do that.

I loved it. I’ll probably watch it again.